just because an system is functional, does not mean it is good or you should use it.
Of course – choose from whatever exists or make your own - but if you find a functional one (again: not generalized "shamanism", and better call it by it's native name, whatever) – why not try it?
And what if you find one that you LOVE?
one criticism of the shaman system i have is - any system using intoxication/ rituals/ spirits has an problem with state dependent memory.
I agree about intoxication. What about united state memory?
Rituals, like shamanic paths, are multiple phenomena. Some are designed to overwhelm, knock out so to speak, attendants into signing in to an agreement, others are a validation, a signature on contract [decleration of intent] (between one and others/ oneself).
Can be performed as a dramatic show or succinctly declaring intent.
Valid by magical law that is mostly null in our districts – yet unbreakable in proper use.
i cant really explain, just it seems being consistent calm and smooth as you build knowledge of the superparapreter is and good quality in the long run, different than massive bursts of perception that only happen under certain conditions.
Good luck with the superparapreter – personally I wouldn't touch it with a 3 meters long keisaku.
But, again, it's a matter of personal taste (or is it?)
(is it your taste anyway?)
"Always separate the man from the teacher."
Seems to be conflicting to what I told G…
Actually all I said – a teacher has no veto right concerning the agreement between teacher and student.
But there is more to it:
The way creatures – at least mammals – learn from their parent is – internalizing everything one's parents (or a parent figures) do.
(this is just the reason why it is so difficult to avoid repeating your parent's example, even when you hate it; particularly once you become a parent. you can tell yourself thousand times what your parents did was wrong, yet find yourself doing just the same… aha.)
This is biology – nature's design. To enable one to act instinctively – fast, with no internal conflicts.
Teachers are parent figures. Thus it is hard to shake whatever your teacher did wrong – particularly about his teaching subject, but not only.
Ever after the closing of the tamahtufah, giving a perfect – at least impeccable – personal example dropped from the list of requirements for teaching.
Aha.
So we are stuck with pedophile priests and womanizing "naguals" both demanding from others celibacy, drunken zen masters, and un-cool collage electronic teachers… none of which obliged to be perfect, impeccable or even "cool".
While electronics (if I'm not too ignorant to form an opinion) or, say, architecture you can manage to teach without being a thorough personal example, this is not the case in, say, Don Juan's teachings (magic?) – when the teaching includes a total change of behavior and being.
As debunkers rightfully claim, you can't require celibacy yet tempt female students; Or be a priest and seduce church choir boys.
To teach stuff like impeccability, re-arranging all one's energy, deleting personal history, or – let me find some examples from my own teaching (which might also fit into the inaccurate term "shamanism") moving neutrally, with no superfluous tension in the body – you can't if you can't present a personal example.
So I did laugh for 5 minutes.
But was it god?
What is god?
whose god?
God who?
- Ok, I'm convinced.
- You were typing to me when you did.
- I can read it.
- Sometimes laugh.
- But who are you?
P.S. did I ever tell you how Charlie virtually slapped me?
That was totally effective.
Impulses rock.
There is a strange kind of disconnect between students and some teachers that is really hard to bridge.
it is [imo] the lack of a viable agreement between the 2 parties.
the automatic agreement rendered by the school/institution is distorted most cases - ...TCOTT+all the horror influences added since.the needs of the students are not met - they are forced to learn lot of boring surplous stuff, with is lethal for their motivation, destructive for the diamond head of their focus of attention so to speak, not to mention their yearning to have a parent, at least a brother figure, who loves them and does his best to give them a perfect personal example. learning is so boring when imposed! pushes studeents to entertain themselves by sadistically harrsing someone... other student or, better when possible, the teacher
none of your fault G - though you CAN take responsibillity.
what is love, or what does love got to do with it ?
In a meat sense (but not meant cynically), I think it's probably hormones that affect certain areas of the brain where certain subsections of the main meatprogram is stored. These subsections include, but is not limited to:
Pair bonding (to facilitate mating and child rearing)
Maternal / Parental bonding (to promote survival of the genes)
Team bonding (probably a hunting thing)
James bonding (a cheap, silly joke)
definition: love is a potential between fields of energy around humans - "luminous eggs" in casta terminology.
i have to go - will elaborate later.
